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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. >> ifill: and i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: on the newshour tonight, china rattles world markets by sharply devaluing its currency. what are the economic repercussions? >> ifill: also ahead this tuesday: an alphabet shake-up. google separates its core search business from its more risky ventures. >> woodruff: plus, they call themselves the black mambas, women who hunt down poachers in south africa. >> it is important to save the rhinos. >> they are african women in an african context doing this job for the first time in the history of africa. >> ifill: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.
>> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> ifill: wall street was hit by a wave of selling today, triggered by china's currency devaluation. the price of oil and other commodities plunged, amid fears of slowing growth in china, and materials stocks followed suit.
the dow jones industrial average lost 212 points to close near 17,400. the nasdaq fell 65 points, and the s&p 500 dropped 20. >> woodruff: nine people are facing federal charges in a hacking scheme that gamed wall street for $100 million. federal prosecutors in new jersey and new york city say hackers in ukraine stole corporate news releases before they became public. then, traders in the u.s. allegedly used it to engage in insider trading. five of the suspects were arrested today. >> ifill: the head of the environmental protection agency apologized today for a waste spill caused by agency workers in colorado. three million gallons of yellowish, toxic liquid released from a long abandoned mine has polluted rivers in colorado and new mexico. the e.p.a.'s gina mccarthy said crews are working round-the- clock. >> the e.p.a. has taken steps to
capture and treat the discharge at the mine itself so we are addressing the risk of any additional downstream incidents. and we have constructed four ponds at the site where we are treating the water to lower the acidity levels and remove dissolved medals. >> ifill: the e.p.a. says the tainted rivers are flowing too fast for the arsenic and heavy metals to pose an immediate health threat. but stretches of waterway will be off limits for drinking water and recreational use until at least the middle of august. >> woodruff: ferguson, missouri remained under a state of emergency for a second day, after a night of relatively peaceful protest. crowds came out again to mark one year since the shooting death of 18-year-old michael brown. there were 24 arrests, but no shooting or looting as there had been the night before. on sunday night, police critically wounded an 18-year- old after he allegedly fired on them. >> ifill: in turkey, the military stepped up its assault
on kurdish militants. warplanes struck sites of the kurdistan workers' party, or p.k.k., in a province near turkey's borders with iran and iraq. it was the latest move in a new government crackdown, and it followed attacks on turkish security forces yesterday, by the p.k.k. and other groups. >> woodruff: the government of greece and international lenders reached agreement today on a new bailout. negotiators worked through the night to nail down the deal, worth more than $90 billion. a european commission spokeswoman said it still needs approval from greece's parliament and eurozone countries. >> what we have at the moment is a technical level agreement reached by the staff of the institutions and the greek authorities on the ground following the weeks of negotiations. what we don't have at the moment is a political agreement and that's what we would need. >> woodruff: greek prime minister alexis tsipras immediately called a vote in
parliament for thursday night. he faces opposition within his own party to some of the terms of the deal, such as selling state property and cutting pensions. >> ifill: chaos grew on the greek island of kos today as authorities struggled with a wave of migrants. fights broke out after officials moved about 1,500 people to a stadium for processing. some jostled for positions and police sprayed fire extinguishers to subdue the crowd. at least 124,000 migrants have reached greece this year, up 750% from a year ago. >> woodruff: and, there's word a truck driver had been awake for 28 hours before the wreck that severely injured comedian tracy morgan and left another person dead. the national transportation safety board reported that today. its reconstruction found the truck blew past warning signs and slammed into a limousine-van carrying morgan on the new jersey turnpike last year. and, it said, no one in the van was wearing a seat belt.
>> ifill: still to come on the newshour: what a weaker chinese yuan means for the global economy. google adopts a new alphabet to protect its core business. and much more. >> woodruff: now to china's decision to devalue it's currency, the yuan. this effort to revive economic growth in the country shook up global markets today and sparked fears among u.s. exporters. the decision to devalue had an instant effect: the yuan currency fell nearly two percent against the u.s. dollar-- the most in a decade. beijing's goal: to make china's exports cheaper and boost an economy that's been slowing markedly. >> ( translated ): the export sector is facing great pressure.
inventories are high. manufacturing, including investment, is facing over- capacity. so, in order to stop sliding export figures, we need to adjust the currency rate. >> woodruff: indeed, china's exports were down sharply in july, by more than eight percent. even so, reaction to the currency move was mixed on the streets of beijing. >> ( translated ): it should be a good thing for the people's lives. exports will be easier to export, and it will be easier to sell things. >> ( translated ): in the short term, it doesn't look like it will have any particularly obvious effects. >> woodruff: meanwhile, the european commission welcomed the prospect of a weaker chinese currency. >> to the extent that the changes announced overnight reflect a shift in operating regime, allowing the daily fix to better reflect the balance of demand and supply in the foreign exchange market, we consider that this is a positive development. >> woodruff: u.s. exporters have long complained that china's currency valuation is already
too low-- giving its goods an unfair advantage. but in washington, the state department was reluctant to criticize today's move: >> we have pressed china to continue financial reforms and while we want to see additional economic reforms we believe that are needed, we have seen progress. that has included the recent commitments by china that were secured at the most recent security and economic dialogue. >> woodruff: china is the latest large economy to devalue its currency. in the past two years, japan and the european union took similar steps. we take a closer look at the move with greg ip, chief economics commentator for "the wall street journal," and orville schell, director of the center on u.s.-china relations at the asia society. greg ip, why is china doing this? >> i think there are a couple reasons.
the first one is that the chinese economy is slowing. its growth rate has dropped to 7% this year. now a country like the united states would kill for a 7% growth rate, but historically that's actually rather weak for china, and given the problems we know that exist with chinese data, it may be that the economy is actually growing even more slowly than that. the recent numbers show that exports in particular have really fallen quite hard. so a natural response for that is for a country to lower the value of its currency in hopes that boosts the performance of exports in other country. >> woodruff: the chinese government put out a statement. they mentioned the growth rate, but they also talked about wanting to go along with market-based fluctuations in currencies, as well. what's that part of it? >> that's a very important aspect of this announcement, because historically in most countries, like the united states or europe, the exchange rate is pushed up or down by market forces of supply and demand. not in china inch china the government says what they want the exchange rate and the market is expected to follow. for years the united states and the international monetary fund have said, china, to be a modern
economy, you must allow market forces to hold sway. that's what china said yesterday. they said, from now on we'll allow the market to tell us which direction the exchange rate should go. it's just telling us, in this circumstance it should go down. it will take time to see if china stands behind that commitment. at times when the market wants the exchange rate to go up. >> woodruff: orville schell, what more would you add to that? what more is going on that would explain what china has done in. >> well, i think we see embedded within the chinese economic system this extraordinary contradiction. i mean, remember, it's half hybrid capitalist market driven and half valley controlled command economy. so we see these state decisions that happen quite often. we saw just when the stock market crashed where the government intervened to artificially prop up the price of shares. and here we see the government really determining what its
currency should be worth on the international market rather than allowing it to spontaneously happen according to market forces. the dilemma here is hue jinping by his own admission, wants to allow the market to determine the allocation of resource, but here we see the state intruding again in a way that falsely manipulates the value of their currency. this sort of heightens the degree to which we can see the chinese economy is on the horns of a dilemma, a real contradiction. half of this and half of that. >> woodruff: orville schell, you were telling us earlier today this also tells how much stress the chinese government is under just over its legitimate similar what did you mean by that? >> well, the chinese communist party does not really have an ideology anymore. the basis of its legitimacy is by in large its economic
performance ability. lately we've seen a number of big hits on that. that legitimacy. mainly we've seen slower growth rates, 7%, probably a lot lower. we've seen a housing bubble. then we had the stock market crash. now we have flagging exports. so at the same time they want to increase consumption at home and diminishing the need to rely on exports, they're stimulating exports by lowering the cost of their currency. so this again sort of puts everything at the doorstep of the government. if they succeed, they succeed. but if these measures fail, then the government takes another hit at its legitimacy. >> woodruff: meanwhile, greg ip, the rest of the world is watching. there was a lot of reaction today. what is the impact on the united states? >> well, it will partly depend on whether other countries feel they have to lower their currencies to compete with china. assume for a moment they don't. the united states lost millions of jobs over the last two
decades as trade with china expanded. that process is largely over. the decline in the yuan in the last day is too small to make a big difference to the u.s. economy. it will make imports a little cheaper, so maybe that keeps inflation lower, but i think the impact on the u.s. economy will be very, very small. >> woodruff: so if you're a u.s. consumer, what do you look to happen? >> some things we know that are made in china like clothing and toys and many other products might be a little cheaper. the really big issue will be political. this is a big problem for barack obama as he seeks to get the trans-pacific partnership completed, because as you know, there are a lot of people in congress who wanted precisely this sort of activity prohibited, currency manipulation prohibited, by that agreement. the administration resisted that. >> woodruff: and we saw a leading member of congress saying today they may look for ways to penalize chinese as a result of what they did. orville schell, so what's at stake here for the chinese government? what has to happen for them to
come out of this feeling stronger, or what are they worried about? >> well, they pride themselves, hoisted on their own petard. in effect they're becoming responsible for more and more aspects of an economy, which theyld have just stood aside and said, well, we're going to let the market determine value. and this is the future, this is where we're headed. i think the problem is that there is going to be political fallout. we near a presidential election year. moreover, president jinping from china is coming in september for a summit with obama, and there's so many issues now dividing the country, that to have one more sort of thrown on the fire is going to make it doubly difficult for them to, for instance, come to some agreement on global climate change issues and things like that. could be that climate change will be our saving grace, but this is an area where we can
agree on, where we do have a common interest. we'll have to wait and see. >> woodruff: if you mentioned additional pressure on the president, greg. what are his options? i saw speculation today that said maybe this means the federal reserve might delay raising interest rates in the fall. how do you see that? >> there is that possibility, but given that the change in the exchange rate is so tiny and it only affects right now trade with china, i don't think it will have a big enough impact on overall inflation to affect the federal reserve's decision one way or the other. i think the united states, we've seen for the obama administration, they got a little bit of what they wanted because they have long-asked china to make the exchange rate more market determined and they lost what they wanted because the exchange rate went in the wrong direction. i think the burden on them is we'll take a wait-and-see attitude. they have long resisted all these calls from congress to brand china a currency manipulator. out of the view that would just cause more problems and they could use quiet pressure instead. i think their hope will be that the chinese are sincere and that
when the markets start to push the exchange rate up, that will be allowed to happen. it's great britain to be a wait-and-see process. >> woodruff: greg ip, orville schell, we thank you both very much. >> thank you. >> ifill: now big changes at a global tech-business icon. google announced late yesterday it is restructuring. the core internet search business with which it is most closely identified now becomes the largest subsidiary of a newly created holding company named "alphabet." other enterprises under the google umbrella, like the home automation division nest, become part of alphabet. google co-founders larry page and sergey brin will oversee the new conglomerate, and current vice president sundar pichai will become google's new c.e.o. but what difference will this make for consumers? by way of background and explanation, we turn to david yoffie, a professor of business
administration at the harvard business school who writes about the technology industry. so professor yoffie, why the reorganization? >> i think larry had a couple ideas in mind. probably first and foremost, he probably wanted to streamline the company, make it much more entrepreneurial, and give people in very small businesses to be their own c.e.o., so they could run the company in a more entrepreneurial way. they also wanted to make the business respond faster to the market, streamline the bureaucracy at the top of the organization. and i think he also was hoping it would be a great way to retain some of the really good people who otherwise might be looking for other opportunities in silicon valley. >> ifill: what are these other non-search businesses? i think you call them "moon shot enterprises." >> well, i don't call them that. that's what larry calls them. they are things like google x, which is robots and self-driving
cars, kaliko, which is looking at how do you expand life expectancy, naft, which you already mentioned, and drop can, an internet-based video which you can put in a home or a business. there are businesses like google capital and google ventures, which are traditional venture capital firms or late-stage venture firms looking at long-term investments in technology trends. >> ifill: tell us about sundar pichai. what does he have to do about this, and what difference does it make that he's taking over, any? >> i think sundar is known to be a great manager, extremely well-liked within the company. he's largely going to continue doing what he's doing before, except he goes from a senior vice president to a c.e.o., at least in the context of the google umbrella, which is now going to be called the alphabet umbrella. >> ifill: how does google or alphabet, but in general the
company, make its money. it makes a lot of money, but is it really from all of these enterprises, or is it from what we know and what we recognize? >> there are two answers to the question. we don't know. google doesn't tell us. they keep all of the information about their segment reporting, what each individual business makes a secret. but we know that they make about 90% of their profits from advertising, which is the business where sundar is going to be the c.e.o. >> ifill: okay. so when you get your google screen up for your search with your google cood l or whatever else you find there, what difference will it make for the average consumer that the company is structuring itself differently now? >> so the average consume her not see any difference whatsoever. the google web site will be the google web site. the chrome browser will be the chrome browser, and android on your smartphone will be exactly the same, rub by the same people in the same organization. so for a consumer, it shouldn't
be meaningful. the real question is will bit different for investors. will they get more information? will it be different for these other businesses, where they will potentially be unlocked and able to move more quickly. >> also will it be different for this public perception of google, which has a reputation of being kind of different, a little quirky, and now it seems like it's headed more in the direction of berkshire-hathaway or a ge. >> and that's the open question. is alphabet really trying to become a conglomerate like a berkshire-hathaway, or is it just a reorganization? that part, the verdict is still out. it's very hard to be a conglomerate in the tech world. it's a lot easier at berkshire-hathaway when you're dealing with companies like fruit of the loom and net jets or insurance. but in a company such as alphabet or google, you're dealing with very high-tech, very capital intensive and in some cases certainly deintensive businesses where innovation is the key and not simply running the business for cash flow.
>> finally, does this protect good until any way from the challenges to its primacy, especially in europe, regulatory challenges, by reorganizing itself, does it become less vulnerable? >> i don't think so. google's core business, what's going to still be called google inc., is the primary business where they're being challenged by anti-trust authorities in europe. that will be equally vulnerable under this structure as well as the old structure. so google still has to deal with potential anti-trust issues, whether they're trying to put other competitors in their business out of business, and this structure really doesn't help them at all. >> ifill: professor david yoffie of the harvard business school, thanks for helping us out. >> thank you. >> woodruff: stay with us, coming up on the newshour: a resurgence of segregated schools in the u.s.
artistic portals bridge connections across cultures and borders. plus, stories of note that flew under the radar. but first, the high-profile killing of cecil the lion by an american dentist in zimbabwe recently has put the spotlight back on big game hunting and poaching in africa. today, zimbabwe lifted the ban on lion, leopard and elephant hunting which it imposed after the killing and worldwide attention which followed. tonight, we take a look at efforts to stop illegal poaching in neighboring south africa, with a one-of-a-kind group fighting to protect endangered species. newshour special correspondent martin seemungal has our story. >> reporter: they take their name from the most feared snake in africa. the black mambas are a specially trained, all-women,
anti-poaching unit, protecting rhinors and other endangered species. >> i wanted to protect the rhinors. >> reporter: uh-huh. >> because i heard a lot about people killing rhinos. so i just had an interest that i must come and work here and protect those rhinos. >> reporter: they're critical eyes and ears on the ground, patrolling the perimeter fence, looking for any signs of poacher incursions. they walk 20 miles, often longer, during the day, and they work at night, a loud, very visible display that they are stitch watching after dark. they use a vehicle at night because it is far too dangerous to come out on foot. but there are still threats. the wild animals, that's an elephant they have to back off. lions and leopards hunt at night. poachers are usually heavily armed. all of the women admit it wasn't
easy in the beginning. one of the black mamba veterans runs the operation center, but she spent three years on the beat in the bush. >> knowing that there is danger, you just think, i don't know if i am going to face a lion. i don't know when i'm going to face a rhino, so, yeah, first time, i was afraid. >> reporter: all of them got over those fears. >> at first i was scared, but each and every time when you go out, i get used to it, and i'm loving it. >> reporter: the black mambas learn in balloley game reserve, part of the greater kruger national park. kruger is enormous, the size of the state of new jersey. the rhino population is constantly threatened by poachers, but here there has been a sharp drop in attacks since the black mambas were deployed. >> they are african women in an
african context doing this job for the first time in the history of africa. >> copy that. i copy that. good luck. >> reporter: craig spencer is the warden here and the one who created the black mambas. he rates their overall performance as excellent and sayings they often do better than men on the foot patrols. >> the women's ability to pick up those things, you know, to see those subtle differences is much higher than the men. so they're much more observant. men are too interested in riding quad bikes and carrying big guns and jumping outs of helicopters. the women aren't interested in any of that, at all. >> reporter: they don't carry weapons. the poachers usually do. they're often caught on cameras mowlted throughout the park. the pictures are transmitted to three different smartphones. >> if you zoom in, you can see the guy in the front is carrying a weapon. there's a third guy backing him up behind. he's also carrying some sort of
a weapon. if we put it on the computer, we can advance the picture. you can see, these guys are up to no good. >> reporter: if the black mambas spot a poacher or need support, they call for back-up. armed rangers are on constant stand-by, ready to react when the call comes. in the three years they have been operational, they have earned the respect in a profession long dominated by men. they are determined to prove themselves. >> they're wondering, what kind of woman are you, doing man's job. i told them, that's in the man's job. anything that man can do, i can do it. >> reporter: but work in the park is only half of the black mamba equation. there is a furious battle going on in the many villages surrounding the park, a battle for hearts and minds. the unemployment rate in these areas is 80%, sometimes even higher. the poachers know that, and they take advantage of it. but when the women return for their regular breaks, they bring
an important message. this woman is home for a seven-day break. she will spend much of that time talking to teenagers. >> i'm warning them that it's too risky for them if they want to poach, because rangers are waiting for them so they can kill the poachers. >> reporter: the women also target schools in areas where poachers are known to be most active. >> we're letting information go out to the community, but in the reserve, we've got black mambas that will protect our rhinos. so if a parent is a poacher and they come into our reserve, the kids can act as an early warning system that the parents shouldn't come into the reserve, so that's what we want. >> reporter: 11-year-old jenny has her own ideas on how to fight the poachers.
>> we must make lots and lots and lots of poachers, everywhere around you're going, save the rhinos and the poachers. >> reporter: the message is getting through, making it more difficult for the poachers to successfully recruit people in these villages. there are 26 black mambas at balloley. the warden wants the train more, but funding is already tight. amy clark manages the office. >> it's very frustrating. because potentially there is so much more we could do, but we need the funding to enable us to do that. it does get very frustrating. and quite stressful, as well, at times, when you sort of are running around sort of almost feels like you're begging sometimes, but unfortunately that's what we need to do to be able to get the funds to continue. >> reporter: the mambas' salary is covered by the south african national parks
authority, but it's not much, about $250 a month. the extreme low end of south africa's national pay scale. yet similar to what other park workers get. but they say they're driven to do this because they say they want to preserve something for their children. >> we want our children to be able to see rhinos, not from a television or a magazine. we want them to see them live in the reserve. >> it is important for us to save the rhinos so that the next generation will be able to see that they are rhinos. not just by history that there was rhinos. otherwise they will be like dinosaurs. >> for the pbs newshour, i'm martin seemungal in south africa.
>> ifill: for the first time this school year, non-white children made up more than half of the country's public school students. but the country's schools have grown only more segregated since 1988. the most recent data shows the average white student goes to a school that is more than 70% white. and less than a quarter of black students go to majority white schools. jeffrey brown takes a look at whatever happened to integration. >> brown: one metropolitan area where schools are largely segregated is st. louis. and one year after the shooting death of michael brown in ferguson, it's an issue that continues to resonate there and beyond. "new york times magazine" writer nikole hannah-jones has reported on the situation in ferguson and elsewhere in the country. her work has appeared in pro- publica and on the radio program, "this american life." also joining us is sheryll cashin, a law professor at georgetown university who writes on desegration efforts. her latest book is titled, "place, not race."
welcome to both of you. nikole hannah-jones, let me start with you. give us a quick overview of what you saw in ferguson and its schools. what struck you most forcefully there? >> well, the thing that strikes you most is this is the most segregated, impoverished districts in the entire state. there are 520 districts in missouri, and this district ranked dead last. it was stripped of its accreditation, and in the classrooms, sometimes there's very minimal amount of teaching occurring. >> there was even a short-lived effort i gather there to bring some of the students from that school district to another suburb, which was mostly white. >> yes. because of the missouri transfer law, i call it accidental integration, because the law was never intended as an integration statute, but because normandy is almost entirely black and lost its accreditation, under the law it was given the right to send its students to an accredited district new york this case the accredited districts are mostly heavily white. michael brown sheryll cashin, it is more, not less common that
american schools are segregated. >> right. in the '70s and '80s, many school districts were under court order to desegregate. in the '90s, the supreme court signalled it was time for courts to stop policing desegregation and two-thirds of the school districts that had been under desegregation orders have come out from under them. we've had a rapid, massive, recession -- recession immigration since 1998. >> brown: have we largely given up on the idea of reintegration? >> i hope that's in the true. there are about 80 school districts in this country that voluntarily have school integration plans. they tend to use economic integration as their model rather than race. >> the supreme court makes it hard. but those 80 school districts are out there trying without a lot of encouragement frankly from the federal government or others.
so i hope, because there are successful places like louisville, like montgomery county, maryland, increasingly people are looking to the hartford example where 45 magnet schools that are well resourced and integrated have been built because of a lawsuit, and there's a multiracial coalition of parents that supports it. so there are positive examples out there. i hope we have not given up on it. >> brown: nikole hannah-jones, what did your report tell you about integration and what are the key factors in it? >> well, it tells you that integration efforts in this country peaked in 1988. that's also when the closure of the achievement gap peaked. so since then we've seen largely an unraveling. sheryll talks about there are 80 school districts that are actively attempting integration,
but there are thousands of school districts in this country, and most of them are not. as nation we've decided that desegregation efforts are not politically worth our while. and so you have seen a pretty rapid recession immigration, particularly in the south, and in much of the northeast, there was never much desegregation in the first place. >> what are the biggest factors in all of this, as to who is getting a better education. is it money? is it teachers? what is it that makes the difference? what do we know? >> well, there are two things. now we're seeing in black and latino schools, a high concentration of poverty, which provides a very difficult learning environment and teaching environment. but also data collected by the u.s. department of education shows that to this day we have failed the make separate equal. so schools that are heavily block and latino get the least qualified teachers. they get the least rigorous curriculum, their facilities are worse. so separation is continuing to harm these students. >> what would you add to that? >> well, nikole is right.
i don't want to misrepresent the facts. 80 districts pursue integration. 14,000 don't. and nikole is right. the vast majority of black and latino students at public schools today are in separate, unequal schools. and the united states of america does the opposite of what its competitors, who are beating us in the international test scores, do. our competitors put the most experienced teachers in disadvantaged areas. we do the opposite. we tend to put, you know, the weakest, often uncertified teachers in schools with the most need, and only 1% of high-poverty schools succeed. unfortunately, the department of education has focused its efforts mainly on trying to turn around high-poverty schools with not much success. and it hasn't focused much on deacons traiting poverty, which is proven to be successful when
it is achieved. >> brown: we'll have to leave it. there sheryll cashin, nikole hannah-jones, thank you both very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> woodruff: now, an art project attempting to build individual connections across the globe. it's called "portals," and is the brainchild of artist and former television news producer amar bakshi, who told us that in his former profession the most meaningful conversations often came once the cameras were turned off. we spoke to bakshi during an installation earlier this summer that connected people in washington, d.c. with those in herat, afghanistan. here's our look. >> my everyday life is not that crazy, or i don't live in a war zone. but occasionally you know there are that unfortunate events where there is a bomb or
something like that. but life is good! >> good! >> it's a bit intimidating to walk into a room and talk to a total stranger. the news always latches on to whatever is like the most attention grabbing, worst, the most horrible piece to show everybody. >> i met someone that i didn't know before and you know it's almost like learning something new. >> my name is amar bakshi, i'm the creator of shared studios. we're looking at a portal. a large, gold shipping container so when you enter it you talk to someone in a similar space abroad, another gold container, live, full body with translation as if in the same room, one on one for 20 minutes. >> how do you feel? is there weather there hot or not? it was wonderful experience that we shared our ideas about our cultures. >> really? i can speak a little german too.
>> he asked me what i was studying, where i was from, if i would ever go to afghanistan. i think he was trying to convince me to come visit so. >> it is meant to enable encounters across all sorts of distances both geographic, ideological, gender-based, political you name it. >> my parents really wanted me to be a doctor but that was just not my path. >> i was a little bit worried about whether there would be anything to relate to, whether the conversation would just be filled with awkward pauses. >> that's like everybody's parents! >> this is a rare space where both people are in it in a similar contextual arrangement which doesn't immediately tell them to do or try to acquire to try to accomplish a particular >> yeah, what do you eat typically? >> meat, uh red meat, uh, chicken or something like that. thing and that i think is powerful in itself for people.
>> i had actually planned to talk about some maybe more in- depth, tough questions. >> do you live in washington, d.c.? >> but when you're faced in just that short moment of someone you haven't met it's difficult to dive right into the meaty kind of controversial tough questions. >> people can go in there and chit chat about the weather and often they do because its hot here and there. but they can also go in and talk about and they do-- marriage, online dating, you know freedoms, war, loss. >> life has really changed in afghanistan and everything has had a really big impact on our lives. learning about a culture through tv or media is really hard but getting to know people and getting to talk to them in person, it's much more effective. >> for a lot of people here you can feel conflicted about you know to what extent did we play a role in causing that. >> it was a really good experience and really
interesting to hear kind of about his life and his perceptions of the u.s. and kind of to get a feel for a real person living in afghanistan. >> what is your favorite sport? >> i wasn't disappointed that we talked about some of the lighter stuff because a lot of times that's what you actually talk to people about in daily life. i think the value in this experience is just having that moment with someone partway across the world that you absolutely would not meet otherwise. and i think it tells you that every human on the planet has something to connect around. and so it was a pleasure to get to talk to someone that i otherwise would not meet and um, make that small connection, even for a moment, to start off my day. >> ifill: we'll be back with a look at interesting people and
>> ifill: time now for our look at interesting people and ideas that you may have missed on the web, stories that are "not trending." i sat down yesterday with carlos watson, the head of ozy.com. carlos, i want the start by talking to you about some of the stories that we don't hear that much about. one of them we do read a lot and see a lot about drones, drones getting in the way of planes landing at j.f.k. or drones dropping off packages at your house. but it turns out the people are
now looking at drones, these motorized, autonomous vehicles, airborne, and they have different uses for them. >> two really interesting ones recently, gwen. one is in search of rescue. as you know, people use planes, boats, cars, trying very hard the find people who are lost, where people are hiking at sea, et cetera. now they're using drones. they're not only using drones to find people, but they can also bring food, they can bring medicine, they can carry up to seven pounds. so incredibly interesting use, only got permitted by the f.a.a. about six months ago. but it could radically change search and rescue. >> ifill: they also have the kind of drone you can put a camera in a ball and throw into a tight space to see things you otherwise wouldn't be able to see in >> very much some needless to say, our military has been using drones for a long time, using it in that regard. the other place you're now seeing it over in bhutan, a very small country on the edge of india, they're now using it more to deliver health care services.
so they're saying that they've only got 30 hospitals for almost a million people, relatively few doctors. our ability to get the people in need of aid and to look around and understand and even to take sometimes some of the diagnoses from folks, it's facilitated by this. they say in the future, gwen, even in cases of ebola outbreak, those sorts of things, where it's difficult or sometimes unsafe, drones might facilitate. >> ifill: you mentioned india. one of the most interesting pieces on your site was about the most powerful politician most of us have never heard of. his name is vijay jolly. >> what a great name. 55 years old. not elected to anything right now, but he's a key aide to the ground-breaking prime minister there in minute who, as you know, throughout the long-time congress party was quite controversial overseas in part because of some of his role a dozen years earlier when there
was muslim-hindu violences. many muslims were kid. he wasn't even allowed, the prime minister, to visit the u.s. jolly is this spokesperson outside of india, will let's change the image. part of the way we change the image is regularly meet with so-called non-resident indian, indians who grew up in indians and now live in canada and the u.k. >> ifill: who can still vote. >> who can still vote. some 11 million of them had the possibility to fly back home last time around and vote in that big, historic election. the son and grandson of one prime minister ran against a former tea seller. >> ifill: how does he do is that? does he do it with scwiep or technology as much as everything? >> he's doing it with that, but he's doing with it the way major preachers and mange musicians have done it, with meeting at madison square garden and literally holding huge events. so, yes, the small events, but also the large events are quite interesting. this is the guy who is on the far right, a hindu nationalist
he's sometimes called and regarded, but he's seeking to paint, if you will, a different image, a more inclusive image of the so-called b jp, now the ruling party. >> ifill: another thing going under the radar is a potential cure for stuttering, which there's... it's really ruined a lot of young childhood. in this case identifying a predisportion? >> many adults and children suffer with stultering. there have been various kinds of behavioral therapy. some of them shown in the movie about king george vi. >> ifill: "the king's speech." >> very famous people, everyone from wilt chamberlain, the basketball player to, someone like samuel l. jackson, the actor. for years people encouraged children and adults to be less tense when they're speaking as a way to ease the stuttering only in some cases to pronounce certain consonants more softly, now the question is: is there interesting new genetic testing
that one day may say to you, this young baby's likely to struggle with this, and so perhaps encouraging you to intervene soorer with the belief if you intervene sooner it may allow you to prevent that child from beginning a pattering of stuttering. >> ifill: that intervention could be just a pill? >> that today is science fiction. that's further away. but the fact we're talking about using d.n.a. and genetic testing in order to identify these kind of markers represents a lot of excitement in the area. now, when you talk to the scientist, they say, i want to caution you, i want the caution you, i want the caution you because we're still a little bit away, but it's an area that's opening up. given all of the heart heartacht stuttering and speech disorders can cause, you can imagine what a big deal this would be to millions of adults and children. >> ifill: not trending yet but it may be soon. carlos watson, thank you very much. >> always good to see you.
>> woodruff: on the newshour online right now, a different look at the american spirit, a journey through u.s. history to understand why alcohol and america go hand in hand, and have since the nation's earliest days. all that and more is on our web site, pbs.org/newshour. >> ifill: tune in later tonight, on charlie rose, actor leslie odom on the hit musical "hamilton." >> woodruff: and that's the newshour for tonight. on wednesday, we'll look at a program in boston that transforms the lives of low-income kids using classical music. i'm judy woodruff. >> ifill: and i'm gwen ifill. join us online, and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by:
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